tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5642671111007816302.post1646132478060927927..comments2012-07-12T14:47:40.680-07:00Comments on Big Brother Veteran: Live Feed or not? and why it is going slightly wrong.Nick Batemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14665611003942515501noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5642671111007816302.post-3573107532988413472011-09-22T13:23:27.174-07:002011-09-22T13:23:27.174-07:00Plenty to think about here Nick, not least your in...Plenty to think about here Nick, not least your interest in being employed in some sort of advisory capacity *lol*.<br /><br />First things first. I might have expected you to be a bit more positive about Live Feed. You said in your opening paragraph that "The lack of a live feed is perhaps the most contentious issue for BB fans. But let us not lose sight that it was Channel 4 who forced the issue and took away the live feed citing quite reasonably, the cost, the extra staff and of course the legal issues in having a 24 hour feed." <br /><br />You are right. It is contentious and is also the most important issue facing the programme and the subsequent loss of the audience. As I have said before, Ch4 lost their collective nerve during and after the Shilpa Shetty incident. They took a foolish risk (of bringing in the disfunctional Jade clan) and it backfired spectacularly. After that they never took a risk and as a consequence they removed anything from Live Feed remotely interesting. (Plus they decided to keep anyhing that looked like a news story back for the main show.) Channel 4 attempted to kill Live Feed (as it had been) deliberately. They were attempting to back out of the show and did not really care about the future of BB. The cost of providing it (staff and kit) is a red herring, part of the smokescreen. We don't believe cost is the issue. If they stopped paying the people they have censoring Facebook and their own website they would have some cash left to re-employ sensible skilled people to carry out the technical and administrative aspects of the feed. (If the quality of the skills and the educational qualifications of the Facebook Channel 5 admins can be judged by the quality of their language, posting styles and decision making then they will probably be free to pursue other employment opportunities elsewhere once Facebook posting is simplified by the provision of Live Feed.) <br />Legal issues can be reduced with common sense. We live in an increasingly litigious society; the risk wont go away. Again, my view is that the risk of being harassed by vulture-like lawyers is not the reason either. The real reason that we have no Live Feed is because all the young trendies on the production team took the view that Facebook was the solution to socialising BB; bringing the target audience to them in a risk free manner. Their new voting strategy relies on block Facebook voting by people who are reluctant to pick up the phone and vote. My view is that they chose the Facebook solution first and having talked themselves into believing it would work decided to drop Live Feed (and dropped the audience as well). Th truth is of course that they tapped into the articulate core within Facebook who can use all social media for their own ends, rather than have an external social media solution imposed upon them.<br />No doubt Mr Ford is a bit aggrieved that we haven't gone away, while his audience has.Jasmine Merryweatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08170791233155256352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5642671111007816302.post-15669707551678131292011-09-21T23:20:21.444-07:002011-09-21T23:20:21.444-07:00The boring ones usually survive to the final week....The boring ones usually survive to the final week. To mix things up, how about the contestants with the most nominations being immune from eviction and the safest (i.e. those with the lowest number of votes) facing the public vote?<br /><br />This means the viewers get a chance to boot-out the quite ones early on and would totally bewilder the housemates, especially as they are not allowed to discuss nominations.<br /><br />I would also stop telling the house who faces eviction. Currently, the ones who know they are safe for another week know they can relax and generally be boring, whilst the ones who face eviction try to be more entertaining. If they don't know who faces eviction, they all have to raise their game.<br /><br /><br />The issue I have with face to face nominations, is you get a gang mentality. Once a couple of people get say, 3 votes, the others are likely to be influenced to nominate the same people.<br /><br /><br />I hate the new editing, particularly the 'previously' clips during the main body of the show. Channel 5 are trying to manipulate the viewers more so this year than any other. <br /><br />We definitely need a live feed of some sort. Last year Dave was in my opinion, the funniest person in the house, but you probably would not know this if you only saw the main show.<br /><br />Where is the comedy factor amongst the housemates? Last year we also had Ben, Mario, John James and Josie providing the laughs.<br /><br />Channel 5 could ditch Bit On The Side to help cover the costs of a live feed. Would anyone miss it?<br /><br /><br />Looks like Rebeckha is favourite for eviction. I love the fact that viewers are likely to vote to SAVE Heaven this week and vote AGAINST her next week.<br /><br />What reason will there be to watch BB in it's present form once Rebeckha's gone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5642671111007816302.post-2834369020815884422011-09-18T11:18:47.642-07:002011-09-18T11:18:47.642-07:00It is very obvious that channel 5 have taken over ...It is very obvious that channel 5 have taken over the original concept of BB and are trying to reinvent it and give it a new feel - by playing music over the action, having Marcus the narrator be more subjective than objective, allowing them more contact with the outside world. <br />As an avid BB fan throughout the years - this "new" channel 5 BB is not what we want to see. We want the original format where the original rules, twists, tasks apply. Plying the housemates with booze is not the answer either - it's just turning the show into a boozy horny sexual tense scene - which is not exactly what we wana see on our screens. having the awkward tasks, having the priviliages and not just being allowed into the secret room - this is BB at it's best - Glyn from BB7 - his reaction when we discovered the secret room - that's BB gold - not this cringey, awkward, embarassing BB which in the end is making the viewer feel like a fool for watching it which in the end is going to turn them off BB.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5642671111007816302.post-91743476735925738182011-09-18T11:14:25.539-07:002011-09-18T11:14:25.539-07:00Ideas from a 20yr fan from the beginning;
1) No c...Ideas from a 20yr fan from the beginning;<br /><br />1) No contact whatsoever with the outside world<br />2) 24/7 live stream online (like every other country) & some overnight hours on TV.<br />3) More basic editing, less music, SFX, name tags & no housemates in titles.<br />4) Varied housemates; Age, nationality & sexual preference.<br />5) Better tasks; Some 72hr (shifts) endurance tasks, less diary room tasks.<br />6) Faceless, humourless Big Brother.<br />7) Turn it back into Big Brother not TOWIE/GS.<br />8) Don't focus on the "game" & bitching, let things happen naturally.<br />9) Mess with their heads; unwinnable tasks, change the shopping, change the time, wake them at weird times, turn things on & off, stop the moving cameras for a couple of days & just use the static ones..?<br />10) Make them really work for what they get & want to succeed.<br />11) No gimmicks like Pammy, spaceship entrance & Jedward last year.<br />12) Try to get a different crowd that don't boo everyone that isn't a model, talk to the house away from the crowd, don't tell or let the housemates hear how they are perceived outside.<br />13) Keep it real!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5642671111007816302.post-68266127489284174192011-09-18T11:03:15.424-07:002011-09-18T11:03:15.424-07:00Not sure what can be done. I agree the house mates...Not sure what can be done. I agree the house mates aren't the problem. <br /><br />I wish someone explained in detail the costs of running the live feed. As it's used as a excuse so much. But then in the C5 press release it stated that cost wasn't a factor in the decision. <br /><br />They've just completed an endurance task yesterday, a sort of variation on the old box task, but dressed as chickens in a coop, having to eat popcorn. <br />So we got the action/result via facebook & twitter, removing all the suspense and drama out it before we've even seen the any footage. It's like seeing footie results on a biddy printer, and have to watch the match afterwards. <br /><br />Their use of twitter & facebook just hasn't been thought out. <br /><br />Starting to see think France's banning of mentioning twitter & facebook on TV is a good idea. So clueless muppets can't try to be hip and down with the kids, and fail miserably. The TV equivalent of dad dancing. Or George Lucas thinking JarJar Binks was going to be popular. The failout on LF facebook which has resulted in them restricting access to their content to registered users only, has excluded some viewers, including me. <br /><br />I've also noticed that any BB related hashtags rarely trending on twitter, even the official #bbuk doesn't seem to get enough tweets even after they started putting it in the shows. Tashie trended on Friday night, but that's been it for the last few days.<br /><br />All looking a bit dismal.RenThrayskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07042732545029233942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5642671111007816302.post-36376118689160497332011-09-18T10:49:35.134-07:002011-09-18T10:49:35.134-07:00Nick we definately need live feed. One hour of hig...Nick we definately need live feed. One hour of highlights late in the evening are just not enough to properly judge the house mates. I refuse to vote until some form of live streaming is introduced. I really feel that channel 5 have made a massive mistake this year by not introducing live feed.Darren Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17937507608447494560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5642671111007816302.post-20471508846896054212011-09-18T10:31:54.115-07:002011-09-18T10:31:54.115-07:00If its one think i've noticed over the years, ...If its one think i've noticed over the years, BB has become "softer". I remember times when they divided the house, put them on roundabouts till they were ill (bring back the live task!!), played tricks on housemates etc.<br /><br />Now its all about secret tasks and nothing much else (other then boring tasks).<br /><br />I completely agree with your 8th point. Seems this fundamental rule of big brother about their being no contact with the outside world has gotten slack.<br /><br />Ultimately, a live online feed, strictly back to the original rules/concept, some interesting twists and a better variety of housemates could save BB.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087972884047168776noreply@blogger.com